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This template (Template:List of Colors) was considered for deletion on 3 August 2010. The result of the discussion was "rename and keep".

Due to some people not understanding the list template. I am all for changing the template into a Color topic template instead. Here's sort of example of what it would look like.

Jhenderson777 (talk) 16:38, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

And if you haven't noticed it already. There is a hidden comment on the Colors list. What do you think? Jhenderson777 (talk) 16:46, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I don’t think that’s a reasonable set of topics (part of the problem is that Wikipedia’s coverage of color is in general disorganized and extremely incomplete), and I don’t think the addition of a template like that to articles would actually help anyone. –jacobolus (t) 21:13, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

My recommendation is to completely move this discussion to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Color, where interested editors might participate. –jacobolus (t) 21:18, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I would have thought that would be a better place, too, but apparently not many color editors watch that page, as I haven't been able to stir up any input to the deletion discussion. But I do like the color topics template better than the color list, because it can reasonably evolve as editors find better organizations or topics to add to it, as opposed to the color list template that has an unexplained notion of "major" could only grow to become a laundry list of too many colors. As to whether it would actually help anyone, I think that's not such a big deal, compared to the color list that actively misleads and confuses with its selection and categorizations of colors. Dicklyon (talk) 02:29, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough. It probably should be renamed to something other than "List of Colors" then. Do you have any input on a potential initial set of topics? –jacobolus (t) 02:53, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes I changed the name and I will probably let the redirection name be deleted. Jhenderson777 (talk) 18:20, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If pink is a main color isn't cyan as well? --Mrmoustache14 (talk) 22:34, 5 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have modified the template to take one parameter. If it is set then this template displays [Cc]olour. I have also added documentation. -- PBS (talk) 14:00, 25 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

looks fine, I tweaked it a bit per WP:BRINT. Frietjes (talk) 16:58, 25 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I've added this to the template, yes, the article is but a stub but the pastel color group does seem quite relevant, and this stub has suffered from being rather hard to find, imo. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 15:25, 2 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

IP editors have significantly expanded this template this month. I think it's getting to the point where it contains far too much information. Could those making the edits please excercise some more editorial discretion about which topics to include, and trim the template back to a manageable size? —Psychonaut (talk) 17:24, 19 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hello PBS, a suggested idea. The list of colors in the 'above' section are for the "shades of color" and not the color themselves. How about making the link to the color followed by the link to "shades" in parenthesis. Example: 'Violet (color)' followed by 'Shades of violet' as: Violet (shades). That would make the template quite a bit more useful in color searches. Thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 12:09, 24 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Passing this suggestion along again. Randy Kryn (talk) 02:40, 16 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Can I add Category:Shades of color templates to Template: Color topics? ColorTheoryRGB CMYK 23:53, 15 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: {{edit template-protected}} is usually not required for edits to the documentation, categories, or interlanguage links of templates using a documentation subpage. Use the 'edit' link at the top of the green "Template documentation" box to edit the documentation subpage. — JJMC89 (T·C) 04:09, 16 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Please add The dress (in italics) to the color perception section. The dress has become a standard for color perception discussion. Thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 11:47, 11 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

 Done — xaosflux ^Talk 12:51, 11 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Could someone italicize On Vision and Colors in the first group? It is the title of a work. Trivialist (talk) 19:47, 6 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Good catch. – Jonesey95 (talk) 00:02, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Could someone add Color of chemicals to the appropriate spot? That article already has this template. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 03:07, 16 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

What is the appropriate spot? ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 06:55, 16 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

To editor LaundryPizza03:  done, and thank you very much! P.I. Ellsworth  ed. ^put'r there 01:05, 17 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Color of water should be added as a subbullet of Color of chemicals. It already has the navbox. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 07:37, 1 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

To editor LaundryPizza03:  done, and thank you again very much! P.I. Ellsworth  ed. ^put'r there 08:32, 3 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Bolden the icons below the template, so Category becomes Category

Also add the Book on this topic to the template. Painting17 (talk) 00:23, 2 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit template-protected}} template. Tried the bolding myself on other templates and was reverted, so the present consensus seems to be against the boldface type in the Bottom section. As for the Book addition, most of the links on the Book: page are already in this template. The three that aren't are covered in the Color model article. See no need for it, tho' others' mileages may vary. P.I. Ellsworth  ed. ^put'r there 21:28, 2 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

To editor Painting17: just fyi, here is the official word on book links in articles and templates: WP:BOOKSDEP. P.I. Ellsworth  ed. ^put'r there 20:59, 10 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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In the Color dimensions section (group9), I am requesting the following changes and additions:

Please Remove "tone" from "Lightness (tone and value)" and put tone in with "tints & shades", so that:

Tints, tones, and shades

Lightness (value)

And please ADD:

Luminance

Then put Lightness under it, along with:

Darkness

Brightness

And optionally add these dimensions:

Iridescence

Fluorescence

Here is the group9 section with these edits made:

| group9 = Color dimensions
| list9 =
*[[Hue]]
**[[Dichromatism]]
*[[Colorfulness|Colo{{#if:{{{1|}}}|u}}rfulness (chroma and saturation)]]
*[[Luminance]]
**[[Lightness|Lightness (value)]]
**[[Darkness]]
**[[Brightness]]
**[[Iridescence]]
**[[Fluorescence]]
*[[Grayscale]]
*[[Tints and shades|Tints, tones, and shades]]

 }}

Basically, "tone" refers to mixing in a grey pigment into a color, similar to to tint (mix in white) and shade (mix in black). Thus "Tones" does not go with "lightness" which is a perception.

And if there is lightness, then there should be darkness, and also brightness which is distinctly different from lightness. And all those are under "luminance"

Iridescence, Fluorescence, are also dimensions of color.

Thank you! -Andy Myndex (talk) 22:28, 27 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Myndex: Thank you for your suggestions. No one else has commented but in principle I am happy to make these changes. Please can you update Template:Color topics/sandbox in line with your proposal? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:56, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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@MSGJ: I updated the sandbox for Color Dimensions, please let me know of any questions. THank you! Myndex (talk) 10:02, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, looks good. I've made a few tweaks. In general I think it is better to use the name of the article (i.e. Tints and shades rather than adding an extra word). If you think tones should be included, then perhaps that's a rationale for moving the article. What do you think? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 12:41, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

To editors Martin and Myndex:  done. The article "Tints and shades" has been renamed to "Tint, shade and tone". P.I. Ellsworth - ed. ^put'r there 08:33, 21 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

To editors Martin and Paine Ellsworth: Thank you bothMyndex (talk) 01:57, 27 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]